what is the significance of 11001001 in "11001001"

[m***@gmail.com]

I was wondering what the significance was of the binary number 11001001 on
the episode "11001001". Any CS major will tell you that this number equals
201 in ordinary decimal.
In the story, Picard and William are frantically trying to guess the
filename to restore the binar's main computer and Picard points at the
unconscious Binars and says "Would they have kept it *that* simple?"
Well I was expecting him to guess "four" as in the number of binars
laying on the floor (00000100 in an eight digit binary or byte) but then
they come up with 201? what the hell?
Any ideas, is it really simple?

Unless I'm mistaken, 11001001 is 'I' in ASCII. Surely the most
important word in the universe. :)
Joshua
+ "Each woman is a promise that she can't keep that appeals to +
| a hope you can't control." - joe theseus, Deadface: Earth Water Air Fire |
| |

The ASCII code for binary number 11001001 is not the capital letter I.
It is the code for a capital E with a ' above the letter.
Doesn't seem to be of significance. I think the writers just chose it because it sounded cool.

[Simon Clubley]

Post by m***@gmail.com

I was wondering what the significance was of the binary number 11001001 on
the episode "11001001". Any CS major will tell you that this number equals
201 in ordinary decimal.
In the story, Picard and William are frantically trying to guess the
filename to restore the binar's main computer and Picard points at the
unconscious Binars and says "Would they have kept it *that* simple?"
Well I was expecting him to guess "four" as in the number of binars
laying on the floor (00000100 in an eight digit binary or byte) but then
they come up with 201? what the hell?
Any ideas, is it really simple?

Unless I'm mistaken, 11001001 is 'I' in ASCII. Surely the most
important word in the universe. :)

The ASCII code for binary number 11001001 is not the capital letter I.
It is the code for a capital E with a ' above the letter.
Doesn't seem to be of significance. I think the writers just chose it because it sounded cool.

It's been a very long time since I've seen 11001001 so this is from
memory. I also have not checked any other postings in this thread
(I don't use Google Groups so I don't have them to hand).

There were 4 binars and each had their own name. 11001001 is one of
the combinations formed by putting their names together.

Simon.

[Allen W. McDonnell]

I was wondering what the significance was of the binary number 11001001 on
the episode "11001001". Any CS major will tell you that this number equals
201 in ordinary decimal.
In the story, Picard and William are frantically trying to guess the
filename to restore the binar's main computer and Picard points at the
unconscious Binars and says "Would they have kept it *that* simple?"
Well I was expecting him to guess "four" as in the number of binars
laying on the floor (00000100 in an eight digit binary or byte) but then
they come up with 201? what the hell?
Any ideas, is it really simple?

Unless I'm mistaken, 11001001 is 'I' in ASCII. Surely the most
important word in the universe. :)
Joshua
+ "Each woman is a promise that she can't keep that appeals to
+
| a hope you can't control." - joe theseus, Deadface: Earth Water Air Fire |
|
|

In Binary it would be counted as 11=3 00=0 10=2 01=1 or 3021. The meaning
is unknown to me, it is also possible the writers just chose numbers at
random. Wouldn't be the first time.

[Piotr Karocki]

Unless I'm mistaken, 11001001 is 'I' in ASCII. Surely the most
important word in the universe. :)

Yes, you are mistaken :)
11001001 = hex C9 = dec 201.
ASCII is 7-bit code, so 11001011 is outside ASCII.
Some time ago it would mean italic capital letter I, now it means 'latin
capital letter E with acute'. On Windows machines press left Alt, then
(from numeric keys) 0 2 0 1 , and release Alt :)

---
Piotr Karocki

[j***@gmail.com]

I was wondering what the significance was of the binary number 11001001 on
the episode "11001001". Any CS major will tell you that this number equals
201 in ordinary decimal.
In the story, Picard and William are frantically trying to guess the
filename to restore the binar's main computer and Picard points at the
unconscious Binars and says "Would they have kept it *that* simple?"
Well I was expecting him to guess "four" as in the number of binars
laying on the floor (00000100 in an eight digit binary or byte) but then
they come up with 201? what the hell?
Any ideas, is it really simple?
Mark

Am I missing something? That binary # is 201 in the normal count syetem.

[Piotr Karocki]

Any ideas, is it really simple?

As simple as using your name as your password.

[j***@gmail.com]

I was wondering what the significance was of the binary number 11001001 on
the episode "11001001". Any CS major will tell you that this number equals
201 in ordinary decimal.
In the story, Picard and William are frantically trying to guess the
filename to restore the binar's main computer and Picard points at the
unconscious Binars and says "Would they have kept it *that* simple?"
Well I was expecting him to guess "four" as in the number of binars
laying on the floor (00000100 in an eight digit binary or byte) but then
they come up with 201? what the hell?
Any ideas, is it really simple?
Mark

Each binar had a "name" which was a two-digit binary number. The string
"11001001" was simply the names of the four binars, in the order in which
they were lying on the deck.
-- Mike Kelsey
[ My opinions are not endorsed by SLAC, Caltech, or the US government ]
What is your _quest_? "To get a Ph.D. in high-energy physics"
When will you _finish_? "I don't know. Waaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh..."

I agree with Kel. Just a thought though; do the binars have more than four names (because we are out of two digit combinations)? Lucky for Picard that he got the four binars with the simplest possible names, otherwise the password (and the title of the show) would have been much much longer. ;-)

[k***@gmail.com]

Watching this episode and looked up the binary for the title, stumbled upon this.
Disappointed with the sexist remark. Not a CS major, nor a Women's Studies major. Just a feminist- don't be afraid- I don't hate men, just desire equality for all- I was a poli sci major. Disappointed to see that even the most seemingly , self-purported brainiacs, 'benign' group lure those of the ugly ilk. For a woman, to be described in one , frankly, ill conceived generality; even the word "nerd" has many an individual.
So I guess I'm S.O.L. (Not to be mistaken with T.S.O.L.) here. Back to nerd vision.

[a***@gmail.com]

Post by k***@gmail.com
Watching this episode and looked up the binary for the title, stumbled upon this.
Disappointed with the sexist remark. Not a CS major, nor a Women's Studies major. Just a feminist- don't be afraid- I don't hate men, just desire equality for all- I was a poli sci major. Disappointed to see that even the most seemingly , self-purported brainiacs, 'benign' group lure those of the ugly ilk. For a woman, to be described in one , frankly, ill conceived generality; even the word "nerd" has many an individual.
So I guess I'm S.O.L. (Not to be mistaken with T.S.O.L.) here. Back to nerd vision.

Tell me, how does this answer the question or help anything? I wouldn't even call it a sexist remark, and from your comments I disagree that you don't hate men, even if this is true then don't go around calling yourself a feminist, because the trolls will hunt you.

[k***@outlook.com]

Post by k***@gmail.com
Watching this episode and looked up the binary for the title, stumbled upon this.
Disappointed with the sexist remark. Not a CS major, nor a Women's Studies major. Just a feminist- don't be afraid- I don't hate men, just desire equality for all- I was a poli sci major. Disappointed to see that even the most seemingly , self-purported brainiacs, 'benign' group lure those of the ugly ilk. For a woman, to be described in one , frankly, ill conceived generality; even the word "nerd" has many an individual.
So I guess I'm S.O.L. (Not to be mistaken with T.S.O.L.) here. Back to nerd vision.

After reading what amounted to quite generalization aimed at the self-purported brainiacs, of this "benign" (was quotation really necessary?)I could hardly not respond. Am I to understand that you were upset by someone generalizing about women? I found it very odd that you would actually generalize when that seems to be what set you off in the first place.
Of course I could be completely off base on this one but as I too felt like injecting complete off topic garbage to pollute the thread I figured wth.

[t***@yahoo.com]

The first 2 binares are 10 and 01 later 11 and 00 show up. It's just their names

[j***@gmail.com]

Well, I checked the original air date and interestingly enough, it is Feb. 1, 1988 or 2/01. Don't know if that is why they chose that particular binary number, but it is one hell of a coincidence, isn't it?

[d***@gmail.com]

[ My opinions are not endorsed by SLAC, Caltech, or the US government ]
What is your _quest_? "To get a Ph.D. in high-energy physics"
When will you _finish_? "I don't know. Waaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh..."

that signature! What is your favourite colour? :D

[l***@gmail.com]

I was wondering what the significance was of the binary number 11001001 on
the episode "11001001". Any CS major will tell you that this number equals
201 in ordinary decimal.
In the story, Picard and William are frantically trying to guess the
filename to restore the binar's main computer and Picard points at the
unconscious Binars and says "Would they have kept it *that* simple?"
Well I was expecting him to guess "four" as in the number of binars
laying on the floor (00000100 in an eight digit binary or byte) but then
they come up with 201? what the hell?
Any ideas, is it really simple?
Mark

11001001 = RET — Unconditional Return Opcode for an Intel 8080 CPU. The Binars needed an unconditional return.

[a***@gmail.com]

I was wondering what the significance was of the binary number 11001001 on
the episode "11001001". Any CS major will tell you that this number equals
201 in ordinary decimal.
In the story, Picard and William are frantically trying to guess the
filename to restore the binar's main computer and Picard points at the
unconscious Binars and says "Would they have kept it *that* simple?"
Well I was expecting him to guess "four" as in the number of binars
laying on the floor (00000100 in an eight digit binary or byte) but then
they come up with 201? what the hell?
Any ideas, is it really simple?
Mark

not sure if anyone has allready answered it, but the characters are named in binary as we learn in the begining of the episode. the way that they are sitting indicated an 8 digit code made up from their names

[l***@gmail.com]

Gentlepersons:

The genius of the episode title is that it put the PASSWORD right there in plain sight at the very beginning. It is only at the end when the two officers figure it out that we the viewers get our own "Ah Hah" moment. A very effective way to involve us.

Don't think in decimal because the Bynars think in binary. It is not the value of the eight digits that matters. They were not counting.

They set up a PASSWORD made up of the binary numbers 00, 01, 10, 11. They could have made it simpler by just leaving them in this order. They are computer experts so perhaps there was a very good reason.

Sometimes in computer machine language a 4 digit binary is actually an INSTRUCTION for the computer to follow ALONG with a 4 digit binary ADDRESS location where the value to be worked on is STORED. It is also possible that 11001001 is the actual ADDRESS in the computer where the vital start up program begins.

Submitted with great respect for all and an enduring love for genuine Trek.

Sincerely,

Larry C.
New York, USA

20180307.20

[n***@gmail.com]

Excelent sign off..the date... is recent and i enjoyed your post. As a writer..I must say there's no way the name of the episode was just numbers...there's meaning in it, but to be certain one should write to the author. :) A binary cryptograhm....lots of fun.
BJ...or ***@gmail.com

[m***@gmail.com]

I was wondering what the significance was of the binary number 11001001 on
the episode "11001001". Any CS major will tell you that this number equals
201 in ordinary decimal.
In the story, Picard and William are frantically trying to guess the
filename to restore the binar's main computer and Picard points at the
unconscious Binars and says "Would they have kept it *that* simple?"
Well I was expecting him to guess "four" as in the number of binars
laying on the floor (00000100 in an eight digit binary or byte) but then
they come up with 201? what the hell?
Any ideas, is it really simple?
Mark

I believe it comes from the names of the Bynar.

[f***@gmail.com]

That song is "2112"

[l***@gmail.com]

It is also how a 2bit full adder would add the 8bit binary string together to create a logic circuit that could switch the circuitry back on. :-/

[Howard Kemple Jr]

I was wondering what the significance was of the binary number 11001001 on
the episode "11001001". Any CS major will tell you that this number equals
201 in ordinary decimal.
In the story, Picard and William are frantically trying to guess the
filename to restore the binar's main computer and Picard points at the
unconscious Binars and says "Would they have kept it *that* simple?"
Well I was expecting him to guess "four" as in the number of binars
laying on the floor (00000100 in an eight digit binary or byte) but then
they come up with 201? what the hell?
Any ideas, is it really simple?
Mark

I just found this thread after rewatching the episode and thinking that number looks familiar somehow. I like many of the responses and all and especially the one about the order in which the Binars are laying is the password put in the computer. I looked at that particular ascii letter and converted it in several fonts and in webdings it comes up as one of the globe icons showing Asia and the Pacific oceans.