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[ST:TOS:RM][Notes] Spectre of the Gun
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Phillip Thorne
2008-07-21 02:26:08 UTC
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"Spectre of the Gun"
Season 3, Ep 6
Written by Lee Cronin (Gene Coon)
Aired 25 October 1968
<http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/TOS/episode/68772.html>

It looks like <trekmovie.com> doesn't have a rundown of the SFX in
this ep.

Instead of a glowing spinning cube, the new Melkotian buoy looks like
a stack of spinning crystal slabs, catching the light like Swarovski
crystal. (Hooray for ray-tracing!) When the ship shoves past, note
its size -- it must be at least 50 meters tall.

Why exactly is the Federation so keen ("at any cost") to make contact
with the Melkotians? If nobody has previously, how do the bigwigs
even know there's anybody there? No reason is advanced -- strategic,
cultural, medical.

When the fivesome are inserted into the Melkotian scenario, they
immediately notice that it's just fragments of a town. Later, Kirk is
talking as though they've time-traveled, and is wondering if history
can be changed. This don't match. Were the latter parts of the
script not modified to match the budget-necessitated
set-abbreviations?

Spock needs to learn brevity. "The anesthetic should have worked. It
did not, therefore this is some manner of construct." Or maybe the
Melkotians swapped the contents of your gas-bomb with a transporter.
("We've secretly replaced Doctor McCoy's knock-out gas with dry ice.
Let's see if he notices!")

And if they do think it's a scenario, a guy getting shot shouldn't be
any more surprising than on Shore Leave Planet (#1.15).

Unlike most races that put Our Crew through horrible tests (sometimes
under false pretenses), the Melkotians seemed actually agreeable once
theirs was passed. (Hmm, has "The Empath" been remastered yet?)

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Jack Bohn
2008-07-21 10:18:16 UTC
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Post by Phillip Thorne
"Spectre of the Gun"
Season 3, Ep 6
Written by Lee Cronin (Gene Coon)
Aired 25 October 1968
<http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/TOS/episode/68772.html>
It looks like <trekmovie.com> doesn't have a rundown of the SFX in
this ep.
Instead of a glowing spinning cube, the new Melkotian buoy looks like
a stack of spinning crystal slabs, catching the light like Swarovski
crystal. (Hooray for ray-tracing!) When the ship shoves past, note
its size -- it must be at least 50 meters tall.
The First Federation's buoy was the spinning cube (originally,
and refit). The Melkotian was -I think- two stacks of disks,
looking something like Uhura's earpiece.

It's amazing the number of models built third season: from the
wonderful Klingon ship to the cheesy Eymorg ionic ship to the
reused Tholian/Aurora.
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-Jack
Phillip Thorne
2008-07-21 22:02:29 UTC
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Post by Jack Bohn
Post by Phillip Thorne
Instead of a glowing spinning cube, the new Melkotian buoy looks like
a stack of spinning crystal slabs, catching the light like Swarovski
crystal. (Hooray for ray-tracing!) When the ship shoves past, note
its size -- it must be at least 50 meters tall.
The First Federation's buoy was the spinning cube (originally,
and refit). The Melkotian was -I think- two stacks of disks,
looking something like Uhura's earpiece.
My mistake.

(The Trekcore gallery root is <http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/>.)

First Federation cube, onscreen, showing differently-hued faces:
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Melkotian platter-stack, onscreen and in space:
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Post by Jack Bohn
It's amazing the number of models built third season: from the
wonderful Klingon ship to the cheesy Eymorg ionic ship to the
reused Tholian/Aurora.
I count four original space-vessel models (five if a rock is a
vessel), one reuse, one kit-bash, and whatever Stratos counts as.
Possibly cardboard hung from the studio ceiling. And some AMT
_Enterprise_ models.

3x01 Spock's Brain
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3x02 The Enterprise Incident
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3x03 The Paradise Syndrome
Asteroid

3x06 Spectre of the Gun
Buoy

3x08 For the World is Hollow and This Title Needs a Macro
Reuse of the asteroid

3x08 The Tholian Web
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3x20 The Way to Eden
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3x21 The Cloud Minders
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Jack Bohn
2008-07-22 00:50:20 UTC
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Post by Phillip Thorne
Post by Jack Bohn
It's amazing the number of models built third season: from the
wonderful Klingon ship to the cheesy Eymorg ionic ship to the
reused Tholian/Aurora.
I count four original space-vessel models (five if a rock is a
vessel), one reuse, one kit-bash, and whatever Stratos counts as.
Possibly cardboard hung from the studio ceiling. And some AMT
_Enterprise_ models.
3x08 For the World is Hollow and This Title Needs a Macro
Reuse of the asteroid
And the missiles shot from Yonada. Not a lot of design work, but
they did have to be shot and composited.
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-Jack
OM
2008-07-23 06:47:28 UTC
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On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:02:29 -0400, Phillip Thorne
Post by Phillip Thorne
<http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/3x06/Spectre_of_the_Gun_017.JPG>
<http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/3x06/Spectre_of_the_Gun_025.JPG>
...A more behind-the-scenes shot:

http://members.aol.com/IDICPage/GemKirk59.html


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OM
2008-07-23 06:48:46 UTC
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On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:02:29 -0400, Phillip Thorne
Post by Phillip Thorne
3x08 For the World is Hollow and This Title Needs a Macro
...The more accurate title is "For The Girl Is Hollow And I Have
Touched Her Thigh" :-P

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Joseph Nebus
2008-07-21 20:54:31 UTC
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Post by Phillip Thorne
"Spectre of the Gun"
Season 3, Ep 6
Written by Lee Cronin (Gene Coon)
Aired 25 October 1968
<http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/TOS/episode/68772.html>
It looks like <trekmovie.com> doesn't have a rundown of the SFX in
this ep.
That figures. Our Tivo's broken so I can't do my usual
rounds of close watching and rewatching the episode while distracted
by my urgent Hearts Of Iron II game.
Post by Phillip Thorne
Instead of a glowing spinning cube, the new Melkotian buoy looks like
a stack of spinning crystal slabs, catching the light like Swarovski
crystal. (Hooray for ray-tracing!) When the ship shoves past, note
its size -- it must be at least 50 meters tall.
It had been a spinning sort of thing before, too --
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which is odd. I had the impression it was a variant on the First
Federation buoy, too, possibly because the start of this episode
is so much like the start of The Corbomite Maneuver.
Post by Phillip Thorne
Why exactly is the Federation so keen ("at any cost") to make contact
with the Melkotians? If nobody has previously, how do the bigwigs
even know there's anybody there? No reason is advanced -- strategic,
cultural, medical.
No idea. Orders to Make Contact At Any Cost have been awfully
useful plot-drivers throughout the series, though; perhaps with the
third season budget cuts they had to recycle another episode's plot-
driver token and couldn't afford a new excuse.
Post by Phillip Thorne
When the fivesome are inserted into the Melkotian scenario, they
immediately notice that it's just fragments of a town. Later, Kirk is
talking as though they've time-traveled, and is wondering if history
can be changed. This don't match. Were the latter parts of the
script not modified to match the budget-necessitated
set-abbreviations?
According to Memory Alpha, the initial plan was to shoot the
Western parts on location, using one of the very many Western sets in
existence back then, but it was the third season and so they had to
economize. If the switch from location to partial-sets was done late
enough there might not have been time to rewrite fully, particularly
since about two-thirds of the episode's dialogue is about how they're
trapped in a MMORPG with no way out of the plot.
Post by Phillip Thorne
Spock needs to learn brevity. "The anesthetic should have worked. It
did not, therefore this is some manner of construct." Or maybe the
Melkotians swapped the contents of your gas-bomb with a transporter.
("We've secretly replaced Doctor McCoy's knock-out gas with dry ice.
Let's see if he notices!")
Yeah, they do a *lot* of trusting, like, that bottles of
chemicals are what the labels claim and such for the episode, even
given the warning that they're encountering unfriendly telepaths and
Spock and Kirk have pretty good experience with the Talosians and the
Organians and should know how potent telepathy can be.
Post by Phillip Thorne
And if they do think it's a scenario, a guy getting shot shouldn't be
any more surprising than on Shore Leave Planet (#1.15).
You know, now, I wonder if the Gorn captain was actually
seriously injured or if *that* was an illusion too. Consider how
the Metrons might have simplified things if they had Kirk fight a
fake Gorn, and the Gorn fight a fake Kirk, judging the tendencies
of *both* parties.
Post by Phillip Thorne
Unlike most races that put Our Crew through horrible tests (sometimes
under false pretenses), the Melkotians seemed actually agreeable once
theirs was passed. (Hmm, has "The Empath" been remastered yet?)
I don't think The Empath has got the treatment yet, although
if it was done in 2006 -- and I must admit I can't think why they
would other than that it would be really easy and so would relieve
schedule presure -- I would have missed it.

Yeah, though, most of the entities giving Kirk their tests
were so nigh-omnipotent they didn't really want much of anything to
do with Earth or the Federation. The Melkotians seem to be on the
same plane of reality as the Federation instead.
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Joseph Nebus
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